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Sleep problems continue!
Hello everyone,
I posted a sleep question about a month ago, things started to get better, and then they got worse again! My 5 month old daughter is sleeping HORRIBLY. She slept through the night around 3 months and then after the new year it all fell apart. I cannot get her to sleep for longer than a 3 hour stretch at night and she is up at 6:30 every morning, which would usually be fine if I had been sleeping all night! I am open to trying anything, except I can't really let her cry right now since she shares a bedroom with us. We live in a tiny one bedroom to save money so I can stay home. Maybe I could put her in the living room! Anyway, if you have tried something and it worked, please let me know so I stop spending money on so much coffee. Thanks!!!!
Posted by Briana on 02/02/2007 08:38 AM

 
I rocked my son to sleep until seven months and then we picked a weekend and let him cry himself to sleep it was very hard. We started on friday and by tuesday he was sleeping and would only fuss for a new diaper. I know the experts say not to but now we put him to sleep with a bottle. Sometimes even an empty one. It is his comfort zone just kind of sucking on it. He won't take a binki or blanket so we use a bottle. Good Luck.
posted by Toni on 02/02/2007 01:55 PM

Hello,
My son is only 3 months old and only sleeps about 5 hours a night at a time and during the day only 3 hours. So i can relate to not having enough sleep. And most of the time he falls asleep with a bottle also, then they're times where he falls asleep with a binki but mostly the bottle. I also don't know what to do but I hear the patience and time works everytime. So hang in there.
posted by Kimberly on 02/05/2007 01:09 PM

Hi, I can totally relate to your post. My daughter slept during the night at about 3 and 4 months but now she wakes up every 2 to 3 hours wanting a bottle. I am not sure why the change except that she changed formulas. She was put on a formula called Nutramigen and it digest differently and I believe quicker then others. I thought maybe this was making her want to eat more. I think I made a huge mistake giving her the bottle in her crib because I often wonder if she wants the bottle to go back to sleep. Most of the time she does drink all the bottle which makes me think she was hungry. All I know is I would love to figure out how to get her to sleep through the night again. Has anyone gave you any advice that has helped? Thanks!!
posted by Teresa on 02/05/2007 05:35 PM

I have read a few books at the library that have helped a little bit, but it is hard for me because we are currently living in a 1 bedroom apartment and she shares a room with us. I can't really let her try and figure it out on her own because we will have to lay there and listen to her cry all night. Plus, I hate it when she cries and I feel like there must be a better way! If I can't get her back to sleep by giving her the pacifier I feed her too, even though it's crazy to me that she could be hungry. She will usually eat quite a bit also but do they really go through growth spurts for months at a time?! She doesn't eat any more during the day and sometimes she'll have me up every 2 hours at night and it's just killing me. I am having a hard time getting myself back to sleep after I put her back to bed so then I toss and turn and feel worse. I am going to try cutting dairy out of my diet. She is breastfed exclusively and I think that maybe the lactose is bothering her? I don't know...maybe she's just a pacifier addict. Sounds like we both have the same problem. If anything works good for me I'll let you know. One book that I read that was good was called "The No Cry Sleep Solution" by Elizabeth Pantley. Some of her stuff was good, but some didn't really work for me. :( Please let me know if you come across anything good too! Thanks for the response!
posted by Briana on 02/05/2007 07:41 PM

My son is only 2 mos old but we bought the Fisher Price mobile that has rainforest noises and it really soothes him to sleep...are you also giving her more food prior to bedtime?? It sounds like maybe her belly isnt full and its causing her to wake up? this post is old so I am sure by now things are back to normal for you
posted by Candice on 04/23/2007 09:00 PM

Yes, things are MUCH better now. She sleeps 11 hours at night which is great. She does wake up occasionally but will cry a little bit and go back to sleep. Thank you for your thoughts though!
posted by Briana on 04/23/2007 09:16 PM

11 hrs a night? wow, you are very lucky....mine only sleeps about 2-3 hours right now....and his sleep patterns change so much....I am very used to not sleeping....
posted by Candice on 04/23/2007 09:37 PM

I will tell you what worked for me, even though I resisted and resisted this idea. I checked out book after book after book at the library and tried all sorts of things to avoid letting her cry it out. NOTHING worked. I talked with my doctor and she told me how important it is that we all get some sleep and that letting her cry will not hurt her. It took 3 nights of about 20 minutes of "crying"--she was whining more than crying--for her to start sleeping all night. Now she consistely sleeps from 8:00-7:30 with hardly any waking up. I started doing this when she was 6 months old--I'm not sure how old your baby is but there is something magical about 6 months. They are suddenly babies, and no longer newborns. Anyway, just a happy suggestion. I remember typing that post with one eye open and I'm so happy that's over!!
posted by Briana on 04/24/2007 07:36 AM

Mine is 2 mos old...he seems more like 4 months old....he goes to bed about 1030p....but wakes up at 230am and then every hour even when he has a bottle and diaper change....I feel he may be too small to let him cry but I have heard about the Ferber method....I have no idea what it is and want to buy the book....my son also hates baths so I dont want to do the bath before bed thing...it causes more drama then its worth....we have a video monitor for when we put him in his big crib in his room but i am constantly looking at it and cant go to sleep...I end up putting him back into the co-sleeper so I can sleep....oh well....guess Ill have to be patient
posted by Candice on 04/24/2007 02:51 PM

I am getting ready to try the no cry solution by Elizabeth Pantley.
posted by susan on 05/04/2007 09:21 PM

I tried that, was so excited, and it didn't work for me at all. I posted this message about 3 months ago and since then my daughter is sleeping so much better now. It took me only two nights of letting her cry, and she didn't even cry--it was more of a yell--and now she sleeps 12 hours/night consistently unless she's sick or teething. I tried the suggestions from the book by Elizabeth Pantley but I was exhausting myself trying to remember all the rules and suggestions that after a few weeks I was even more tired than before. I hope it works for you!!! Best of luck!
posted by Briana on 05/04/2007 11:04 PM

I would just advise all the moms to be patient. My son is 3 months old and he sometimes sleeps all night. Sometimes he wakes up once in the middle of the night to eat. When we brought him home, he would wake up every 2 hrs as well. That lasted until he was almost 3 months. I noticed that if he sleeps well during the day, he'll sleep better at night. We also established a bedtime routine with him. We give him a bath at 8:30 -9pm. Then if he's hungry, we feed him and put him down. I tried doing the bedtime routine at 7-7:30 pm. He hated it and he would cry 2-3 hours straight before he would fall asleep. For some reason, it works for him to go to bed later. He loves his bath but he screams and cries after we take him out of the water. Since I think the bath helps to relax him and the crying helps to tire him, we continue to do bath in the evenings. Some babies might prefer a bath during the day. My son also needed to be swaddled in order to go to sleep. He would cry when we swaddled him, but that was the only way he was able to sleep since he would wake himself up with his hands. We don't swaddle him anymore. However, he still cries in the evening and the swing seems to help him calm down. We put him in the swing for 10-20 mins and once he stops crying, we try putting him to bed again. I guess what I'm trying to say is that for my son at least, every night is a surprise. We have to try different things every night and see what works. Babies are different and need different things. My best friend's daughter slept all night since she came home from the hospital. She's 11 months now and continues to sleep all night. She is much calmer than my son. Other moms have toddlers who will not sleep all night. I think my son will be one of those.
posted by Monique on 05/05/2007 06:36 PM

i re-read the posts for help...my son is now 4 months....he does not nap and is now barely sleeping through the night...we are total zombies...food and a pre-bed bath is not helping....my husband and i take turns walking him...he falls asleep then wakes up when we put him down....crying is not an option due to neighbors and his ability to make him self sick if he cries too much....he now has slight eczema and night time stuffy nose issues....HELP....his short stint of solid sleeping is over
posted by Candice on 06/07/2007 03:37 PM

If your baby is crying when you put them down then stoping when you pick them up most likely they know you will pick them up and that is why they do it. I don't think that you can be evicted for a baby crying so I wouldn't worry about the neighbors. I know it is hard to do but if you just let the baby cry for about 10-15 min they will probably go to sleep for a couple of nights when you put them down . At two months I did this whith my son ever since I have not had a problem that is until we went over to another country to visit the in laws. Then my husbands family would pick him up every time he cried ruined what I had done sleep wise because they didn't understand that was how Malik went to sleep, he was 5 months when this happened.We came back when Malik turned 6 months I had to hear him cry for 2 nights when we got back I felt so bad but it had to be done.
posted by Amber on 06/07/2007 04:02 PM

well its not so much that he cries when we put him down...its more that he wakes right back up and tosses and turns...I can tell he is hungry but he eats a small amount and spits it back up...he has learned to roll over each way so he ends up rolling over and over and over and aggravating his skin (eczema) even worse...I am fine with him crying for a bit but that seems to wake him up completely and it takes twice as long to get him down...
posted by Candice on 06/07/2007 05:54 PM

Candice
I can totally relate. My 8 month old has been having a terriable time sleeping. I have read and am working through the no cry sleep solution by Elizabeth Pantley. I know you are probably thinking there is no way I can read a book right now. But I am telling you it is working for me. I don't believe crying it out is the solution for us and I do agree with this author on everything. It is not a quick fix, but I believe with all my heart it will be a permanant fix. My son is learning to crawl and he wakes himself up wanting to crawl she says milestones getting in the way of sleep is normal and as soon as they master it it will pass. Anyways, I recommend it, we are on day 17 or so and have seen majoy inpromvement with naps and night time, I believe this is going to work for us.
posted by susan on 06/07/2007 06:31 PM

Sorry, I hope I didn't affend you, I hope you don't think I was being mean I wasn't trying to be just telling you what I thaught. I watched The nanny programs on tv and they tell the moms to do the same thing let the baby cry they said the babies cry for usually 5-10 min and then nothing they sleep. They said to if the baby is screaming after 10 min or so that is when you pick them up.They also say that crying doesn't hurt a baby it is actualy good for the lungs cause it exercises them .Do what you think is best it worked for me ..
posted by Amber on 06/07/2007 09:35 PM

Amber, doing what you suggested was the ONLY thing that got me out of my frustration from when I originally posted this message back in February. I tended to my daughter all night long for the first 6 months. I thought that was necessary, but then it became out of control! We were waking up every 45 minutes and it was awful, so I finally said NO MORE one night, let her "cry", it was more like a yell, for about 30 minutes, then 20 the next night, and 10 the next and she's been sleeping almost 12 hours ever since. She does have her nights when she's teething, missing us, etc. but putting those boundaries out for her helped her feel better too. She learned that nap time and bedtime are for sleeping, and wake time is for mommy and daddy. She takes better naps now and sleeps really well. So, I dont think what you said is mean at all! She still totally trusts us, loves us, and she's very well adjusted. :)
posted by Briana on 06/08/2007 10:08 PM

Hi Candance,

I'm sorry to hear about your son's sleeping problem. My son is also 4 months old. Sometimes he'll sleep all night (average of 7 hours), but most of the time he wakes up once in the middle of the night. When he's sick or not feeling good, he can wake up every 2-3 hours. I have noticed with my son that if he doesn't get enough sleep during the day, he won't sleep well at night. In addition, I have tried putting my son to bed earlier (7pm), but he does better when he goes to bed between 10-11pm. We kept moving his bedtime to a later time until we found out the time that works better for him. He also won't sleep well if he doesn't get a bath before going to bed (around 9 pm). When we did his bath and bedtime earlier, he would wake up almost every hour crying. All I have to say is that you just have to try a million different things and see what works better for you and your son. Every baby is different. Just be patient and hang in there. It'll get better.
posted by Monique on 06/08/2007 11:16 PM

Hi ladies, sorry for replying so late, we were out of town for a week and my emails during this week (vacation) were sporatic. And yes, the vacation was not good for a schedule for my son....uggggg

The crying thing would be fine with me if we didnt have a couple living literally on the same wall as my son...whats funny is their 2 yr old daughter is on our wall and they let her scream herself back to sleep for 30 mins around 3am....hahahahahaa....sorry, but I can hear our son and they must have some kind of super powers not to hear their daughter...they have a 1 yr old in the same room...dont know how that little thing sleeps through it.

I gave him the 1st foods tonight and tried to put him to bed later (its 11p now) because he was so tired from not sleeping that he took a nap way too late....5p-8p...very bad I know but he was so tired that we had to let him sleep....plus I gave him a full bottle and he was able to eat about 2 ozs...not much but after an entire squash meal that was pretty good....

I am going to try the books you suggested....oh, he is crying now....uggggggggggg.....can you believe it??? hahahahaaa....

k, wish me luck

posted by Candice on 06/10/2007 02:13 AM

Just to refresh your memories, my son is 8 months old and as I mentioned before we were making progress through the no cry sleep solution book, but he is trying to crawl and this keep waking himl. Like, he will wake up briefly, and get in the crawling position, but he isn't really awake. So, needless to say this milestone is really disrupting his sleep. also, he is getting very frustrated as he has been up on all fours rocking back and forth for like two weeks now but doesn't go ahead and crawl. Has anyone experience these issues?? Not really issues, it will pass I am sure.
posted by susan on 06/10/2007 08:12 PM

My son has been getting up on all fours rocking back and fourth acting like he is going to crawl and ready to take of but he hasn't yet it's been almost 1 1/2 months. I can but can't wait untill it happens and he starts to crawl. Hope you figure things out.
posted by Amber on 06/10/2007 09:33 PM

 
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