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Vaccines and autism?
Hi,

I'm a mother of 2. I have a 2 1/2 yr. old girl and a boy who just turned 1. He has his yr. check up coming next week and I'm scared about his vaccines. My daughter had her vaccines and she was fine, but I'm hearing all of these stories about the vaccine MMR can give them autism. I'm not sure if I should hold out on the vaccines until he is older.
What are other people doing or thinking about this topic?
Posted by Lisa on 06/13/2008 11:24 AM

 
Hi Lisa,

I too, have a 2 1/2 year old girl and a boy who just turned one. I was in the same predicament when I had to take him for his shots. Victoria was fine when she had hers and it seemed silly for me to think twice about him having his, but I did have second thoughts. The kicker is - they have this schedule that they (doctors) are supposed to follow and it is pretty much dictated that if the kids don't get these certain shots at certain times, they won't be able to start school. so you're kind of stuck between a rock and a hard place. On the upside, Logan had his shots (about a week ago) and aside from a little crankiness, he's fine. I've heard so many mixed reactions that its kind of hard to sort through it all.

Try talking to your doctor and see what he/she feels about the topic. A call before the appointment might help resolve some issues for you. Good luck =)
posted by Char on 06/13/2008 11:44 AM

Hi Lisa,

My boys just went in for their one year check up a couple weeks ago. They told me that we can wait till they are two years old to get the MMR because they are not in child care and even though they don't think autism in genetic, there is autism in my husbands family(his twin and his fathers brother has autism) so they told us we can wait. I don't know that my questioning them sence I was 30 weeks pregnant had anything to do with it or not, but they stopped arguing with me about it, and told me that Miggy and Logan can wait till they are two, unless I put them in child care. That wont be happening. There is just so much talk about autism and vaccines that it has got me a little shaken up. Ok, so I will stop rambling now. We are going to wait till they are two years old.
posted by Gina on 06/14/2008 11:40 PM

Ask your ped. about the alternate vaccine schedule it may not be too late to start it. We did this with my son. He is 2.5 now and i'm glad we did this. Also if that don't offer an alternate schedule call around and see if you can find a ped. who does. The point is to separate the shots so the childs system is not overwhelmed.

*I taught SPED bf my son was born and this was a parents suggestion.

posted by Stephanie on 06/20/2008 02:26 PM

Thank You everyone for your advise! We are waiting until he's older.
posted by Lisa on 06/20/2008 08:20 PM

I think it is best not to worry about side effects of vaccines. I a have a 2 year old girl Eve and a 4 year old son Big. I always keep in mind that the diseases we are vaccinating are much worse than the side effects of the vacines. My children are all up to date on their vaccines, with no problems. I think the extreme side effects are quite rare.
posted by lisa on 06/22/2008 09:39 AM

My son's ped. said that a lot places changed the 'formula' and so they don't have the ingredient that is said to make kids autistic.You should just ask your ped. about that.
posted by Esmeralda on 06/22/2008 07:55 PM

The "ingredient" is a mercury-preservative called thimerosal and they haven't put that into the mix since 2001, however, Autism rates have still gone up since when they removed the preservative. So, this begs the question - why? Well, how about the fact that the definition of autism was changed and now there are many more diagnoses. I posted the link below so that you can read all of the details. You should also know that the person who came out with the link between autism and MMR originally is currently being investigated in Britain for fraud in association with his study and the medical journal who published him also retracted it stating that no other source has been able to reproduce his findings. The more I research, the more I am certain that it is as clear as MUD! I am still going by the postpone until necessary thought for my son. I responded in your other post too about the schedule of 2 vaccines, 6 weeks apart with only 1 being a live virus vaccine. This worked well with the varicella as he got sick right after from a bad cold and I could only imagine if he had to fight off the MMR too at the same time.

A new study sheds more light on the question of what is causing the recent increase in the rate of diagnosis of autism. Professor Dorothy Bishop from the University of Oxford studied adults who were diagnosed in 1980 with a developmental language disorder. She asked the question - if these people were subjected to current diagnostic criteria for autism, how many of them would be diagnosed today as having autism? She found that 25% of them would. (Bishop 2008) http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=95
posted by Lisa on 06/22/2008 10:30 PM

Any mom on here who is concerned with vaccinations, go to/join the 'Stay at Home Mom's' site. There is a pretty large post on vaccines and autism. To say that one should not worry about the side effects of vaccines is irresponsible. Every drug has side effects. If anyone can find a drug that has zero side effects I will eat my words.
posted by Allison on 06/24/2008 05:42 PM

One more thing...the diseases that we vaccinate for are INDEED rare. With autism rates being 1/150 (1/94 for boys) I think the benefit to risk should absolutely be questioned. Before coming at me with a barrage of posts that claim the reason these diseases are rare are because of vaccinations, go to the SAHM site and read the posts there.
posted by Allison on 06/24/2008 05:47 PM

the diseases we vaccinate for are rare BECAUSE we vaccinate for them. Many on the diseases are still present throughout the works in other countries. My ped. Had a copied article in his office, I Believe from Parents Mag. That spoke about an outbreak of measles in January in I Believe San Francisco or San Diego from an unvaccinated kid who went to Switzerland, picked up measles... Came home, gave it to 7 unvaccinated kids at school and 4 at his dr's office... One or two being Infants too young to vaccinate.... So although waiting to vaccinate isn't bad, no vaccinating can cause your children to be sick or be carriers.
posted by roxanne on 07/22/2008 11:04 PM

HI there, I don't think you are being overly concerned at all. You a mom, you've tried to keep up on the latest news (and there certainly is a lot out there to be said on Autism) and you have every right to ask questions. I have a 13 month old and we decided not to have the MMR at his 1 year. We did do the Chicken Pox and the Hep A. I believe in vaccinations (which is the 1st question I think people need to ask themselves) I also think there isn't any definitive scientific information that links or disproves a link of vaccines to autism and until they have that, you need to do what you think is right. I am doing what one of the other moms is doing which is waiting until they are 2 years old. My pedi was perfectly fine with it. He doens't believe there is a link between the two but he respects there is a lot of speculation out there. Do what you think is right. It's a lot of shots for a 1 year old and my son was one of the 15% that actually got chicken pox post the vaccination. They call it vaccination chicken pox...either way, he got it and he was fine, it was a very mild case, but made me feel better that I didn't do the MMR as well since they too are live vaccinations. Good luck!
posted by Amy on 08/07/2008 12:06 PM

 
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