|
|
| i'd be scared, too! i'm shocked that the police didn't take it more seriously and that the school bus people are so non-chalant. i think i'd be telling the police "if you don't do something about this, i'll call the local paper and tv stations" and then do so. |
| posted by Christina on 01/24/2008 09:33 AM
|
|
|
|
|
| I agree, first when you call the police back, you should let them know that if something isn't done, you are going to the media with their lack of interest in a matter that definately needs to be looked into. If he had no children of his own at the bus stop, then why on earth would he have been at the bus stop? Did he say anything to the kids? We recently had something like that happen over here, and the police issued warning sent home to the parents through the school, with a drawing of the guy, and a description of the car, just to let parents know to be on the look out, the sick part is there were other instances where the same guy approached children from different cars, like he was up on the police description of the vehicle and was trying to disguise himself. This is a big deal, and should be treated as such. The media will have a field day when they find out that the local police are dismissing it as nothing. Teach the kids to kick scream, and get them very loud earpiercing whistles and tie them to the zipper of their coats. Go to the school board about the bus route. |
| posted by on 01/24/2008 09:53 AM
|
|
|
|
|
| I would get some of the other parents in the area involved tell the what happened and let them know that the police don't wnat to do anything about it and that the school bus barn won't come pick up the kids in front of your house. Also see what the other parents suggest you do from your house about the situation |
| posted by judi on 01/24/2008 10:38 AM
|
|
|
|
|
| That really is scarry! I think the police should be patrolling the area while the kids are there waiting for the bus. I'm not sure I would let my child go on the bus now. Do you think you could find someone to either car pool with or if it is hard for you see if they will drive them. I would just explain the situation and I am sure a lot of other parents will be very upset. Definitely spread the word! Sorry to hear that happened to you. |
| posted by Terri on 01/24/2008 10:53 AM
|
|
|
|
|
Lexi,
I agree with the other ladies, you need to get the media involved. In the mean time so keep your kids safe until something is done, have them wait in the house until the bus pulls up. Call the bus company and let them know you are going to do this, and state your reasoning again. Make the bus wait for your children until they decide that it is in their best interest to come to the house and pick up your children. I do hope everything works out for the better! Good Luck! |
| posted by Amanda on 01/24/2008 11:13 AM
|
|
|
|
|
Lexi,
What a horrible experience. It is a good thing you were watching. I am always paranoid about those things happening. The ideas that came to mind that I would pursue are 1. Go to the school district office and tell them your situation and see if they can get the bus to come to your house. 2. File a request at the police station to have a police officer be at the bus stop everyday at that time. 3. Enlist an elderly neighbor who may be awake at that time to watch the baby while you stand at the bus stop. 4. Is there a neighbor you can carpool with? 5. If none of these ideas work, you will have to carry your baby and wait at the bus stop or drive your kids to school - waking up a baby is worth not losing a child. |
| posted by Kara on 01/24/2008 11:17 AM
|
|
|
|
|
| I think it would be great if all school buses can pick up the kids in front of their houses but I don't think it is realistic. I'm sorry that something that scary happened to you and your kids but it's not fair for your kids to be picked up in front of their house and other kids aren't. Maybe you should just wake up the baby and wait with the kids at the bus stop. I have 3 kids myself and I have to wake my toddler up so I can pick up the oldest from his bus stop. I know it makes things difficult but sometimes that how things are. |
| posted by Lisa on 01/24/2008 11:45 AM
|
|
|
|
|
| I think if there is a need for a bus to pick children up at the door, than fair to the other kids should go out the window. Who really cares about fair, it is about safety of the kids and if certain kids are in need of more safety precautions than others, then you have to be "fair" to those jkids and provide them with the safety they deserve. Sometimes it is not practical to take the baby out there with you. The local police department and the school should work with you on this. |
| posted by on 01/24/2008 12:30 PM
|
|
|
|
|
| Are there other kids at this stop or just your kids? |
| posted by on 01/24/2008 12:31 PM
|
|
|
|
|
| There is 1 little girl that runs out of her house when she sees the bus enter (the in front of her yard).She has like a mud room that she waits in.Other then that there is noone else on my street.We are at the end of the school line.Hubby called the school and talked to the super and she informed him that she had to get all the facts before she pursued the problem.He told her to go and talk to the kids.She said after talking to (people) shed send some 1 out if necessary to look to see if the bus had a place to turn around.If they do not do what I want; then I guess, until I get a second car; I will have to take the person's advice and get my baby up in the snow and cold and walk them down there.After I get a car ;I dont mind getting the baby up and driving to the end of the road. |
| posted by Lexi on 01/24/2008 12:57 PM
|
|
|
|
|
| Why not talk to the parent of the other little girl that waits in the mudroom and see if under the circumstances, she will let the kids wait with her daughter in the mudroom. |
| posted by on 01/24/2008 01:50 PM
|
|
|
|
|
| I went and met the nabor and she gave me her phone number and invited the kids to stand in her mudroom.I waited for the kids to get off of the bus today.They told me that the super called each one out of the classroom and talked to them.The mom seems like a very nice person.Im going to stand in the yard and watch them walk thru the lil tree lot w a flashlight.She said that she will watch them walk to her.So we shall see what happens. |
| posted by Lexi on 01/24/2008 04:30 PM
|
|
|
|
|
| I'm sorry that you don't have a second car,but I'm sure that other parents have young children and have to bundle them up to take the older kids to school.It is the parents responsibilty to take care of your children and do whatever is necessary.The world is very sick and crazy,and young children shouldn't be allowed to wait by a busy street alone.And it is not the schools responsibility to give some children special treatment.If one kid gets picked up at home then all the kids should get picked up at home. I take my kids out in the cold so my son doesn't wait on the street corner by himself for the bus. Being a parent is hard,and sacrifices by the parent have to be made. Not the school! |
| posted by Lisa on 01/24/2008 04:37 PM
|
|
|
|
|
| Even if you watch your kids walking,someone can get to them before you can get over there. I think it is bettersafe than sorry,and do what you have to and walk your kids to the appropriate spot. Thay are just kids not adults. The parents should be with them and not watching from afar! |
| posted by Lisa on 01/24/2008 04:39 PM
|
|
|
|
|
| Even if you watch your kids walking,someone can get to them before you can get over there. I think it is bettersafe than sorry,and do what you have to and walk your kids to the appropriate spot. Thay are just kids not adults. The parents should be with them and not watching from afar! |
| posted by Lisa on 01/24/2008 04:39 PM
|
|
|
|
|
| I really do not think she does not know what her responsibility is! Mornings are hard when you are not super mom and you have children of different ages. You try to do what works best. She was asking for advice on the situation, and your answers seem a lot like judgement, but that is just my opinion. |
| posted by on 01/24/2008 04:51 PM
|
|
|
|
|
| Well how do I say this and not sound crude?There is a million dollar private drive housing developement down my street and until some rich person w children move in and pay the school some money they wont come down my road.Since she is putting a price tag on my kids that is!Since my house and the lil girls house are the only 2 ppl on the block, the head of the bus barn took it upon herself to deny coming down this road because of money for gas.I told her you do not put a friggin price of a gallon of gas on my kids heads.Then I found out by talking to the kids again she is trying to lighten the situation that happened by asking the kids if I am over protective.My son said yes she is.Some one has to be.Then she changed my story to the super and told her that I told her this am that the guy actually grabbed my kids.I about went off on her.I called her just now and told her not to be lying and changing my story to benefit her ;so that she didnt have to be fkg inconvenienced.I told her if I have to call daily and raise hell I will! Now the hubby is mad and hes gonna call them when he gets home inthe morning.My responsibility.You damn right its my responsibility to make sure they are safe.But everyone here in this godforsaken state told me that I can let my kids run around and they will be fine cause stuff like that dont happen here.So I tried to ease up being over protective by letting them stand 3 houses away from me for the bus.I was chastised the other day by a few ppl telling me that they are old enough to go down and wait by themselves for the bus.I said; not while I am still breathing theyre not.And look what happened.I told that stupid Biotch if theyd been grabbed ,then the guy either would have driven off w em or Id be in jail for murder.She laffed.I didnt!As soon as I get my car they are going to go to their old school.I 've had nuthin but trouble w them since we moved here in Nov.The school that they came from were the nicest and most caring ppl I ve met in this state.My fault and my responsibility once again for listening to the ppl in this state. |
| posted by Lexi on 01/24/2008 05:34 PM
|
|
|
|
|
| I pmed you Dawn. |
| posted by Lexi on 01/24/2008 05:52 PM
|
|
|
|
|
| I'm sorry if people that that I am being judgemental but a lot of moms have kids that are different ages. I do. But that doesn't mean that I think I am super mom or anything. Being a SAHM is hard. I didn't know that unless you agree with everyone else's opinion you are being judgemental. Someone put their problems up and I was saying that their your kids and you do whatever is necessary to keep them safe. And unless your baby never goes outside whenever it is dark and or cold I see no reason why you can't buddle up the baby for a little bit to make sure the older kids get to school safely! |
| posted by Lisa on 01/24/2008 06:48 PM
|
|
|
|
|
| Ok but if you go back and read what you wrote from an outside perspective, you were being judgemental, it is not that you disagreed, it is how you disagreed, we have topics a lot on here in which we do not agree with eachother, yet we do not judge, that is all I am saying, I am done with this convo now, I am not going to argue online, we have a differance of opinion then, I think you came across very judgemental, and you do not. So be it. |
| posted by on 01/24/2008 07:41 PM
|
|
|
|
|
Lexi,
Perhaps you need to talk to the police about a possible stalker. Considering you had a similar incident earlier this month.
|
| posted by on 01/24/2008 08:22 PM
|
|
|
|
|
please excuse me for butting in, ladies. lisa: i personally think you have valid points, but were a bit harsh under the circumstances. how about we just agree to take what was said in the best light possible, one meant to help. it's hard to "hear" a tone on the computer and your tone may have been very loving and supportive.
i would have been terrified had this happened to my children. it's a real wakeup to me as a mom. i've been working on a "code word" with my boys (they're only 2 1/2 and 4) if someone wants them to get in a car that person MUST know the code word. if they don't they are to SCREAM "you're not my mommy! you're not my daddy!" my boys have no stranger danger at all, so reading this really is urging me to help them learn how to care for themselves. the bottom line is that we CAN'T be with them 24 hours a day as they grow. it's perfectly normal for a 12 year old to wait for the bus without a parent. so, we have to teach them what to do. |
| posted by Christina on 01/24/2008 08:51 PM
|
|
|
|
|
| I do agree that you have to teach children what to do,but unfortunately this world is a lot more dangerous and twisted than it was in the past. I just feel that this group is for everyone to voice different opinion. And maybe its not so safe to let kids that age be alone on busy street corners.They are only kids once,this is our only chance to be overprotective of them.Once their adults we have no control over them.I do feel bad for the horrible situation that happened but I also have 3 kids and know how difficult it can be.Sometimes you have to things that make the moment be hard in order to protect all of your kids. All mothers know that babies are hard,but sometimes you have to wake them up to leave the house. |
| posted by Lisa on 01/24/2008 09:50 PM
|
|
|
|
|
| Jackie I mentioned that to my hubby and he said surely it wasnt the same older man.I wouldnt know cause I am blind as a bat when it comes to features at the darkness hrs.My son andy is the 1 who saw him the best.He wasnt w me and hubby at the store. |
| posted by Lexi on 01/24/2008 10:04 PM
|
|
|
|
|
| Its okay really.I am good w the suggestions.If you didnt mean to come off that way its cool.I think its a wake up call for all of us.I have thkd God for watching over them and letting me be there to at least scare the friggin weirdo off for the time being.I told hubby; I made up my mind.They are going to their old school as soon as I get a car.Ive had it w the school system and their lack of.Like I said if i was down the street in the million dollar housing edition theyd come and get my kids w no questions asked.Dont sweat it.Sometimes ppl need to hear harshness even it it wasnt meant to be put out that way. |
| posted by Lexi on 01/24/2008 10:11 PM
|
|
|
|
|
| I cant sleep.I am actually scared to go to the bus stop in the morning or to even walk outside and watch them walk thru the tree field to the nabors house.Its affecting me worse then I thought.I called hubby cause he works nights and asked him how hard it is to get a permit for a gun in Michigan.I am going monday to buy a smaller gun and register for a permit;so I can carry it w me from now on when I am with my kids for the bus stop.I know some of you are saying omg how could u even think of hurting another life.Well I can.I wouldnt grieve over hurting a pedifile but I would grieve it it was my child being snatched and God knows what torture them SOB's do to children.Do yall think I am wrong?I also left messages w the 2 newspapers here so that they may write my sons story and everything he saw that I didnt.Keep your fingers crossed that they will. |
| posted by Lexi on 01/25/2008 01:33 AM
|
|
|
|
|
| I am not so sure about the gun thing! A tazar works well too, mace. I live in PA Where I can go to any local Walmart and get a license and a gun, but I would probably be the one who ends up shooting my own foot, lol. Plus carrying a gun opens up a whole new worl of problems with the kids. Rethink it please. |
| posted by on 01/25/2008 08:56 AM
|
|
|
|
|
| Tazars are against the law here.I already have a gun.But its not 1 thatd you carry around w you.I was thinking a 25 w/ a carrying permit.Its small but effective.You keep the clip and the bullets and the gun in 3 diff places.Thats what I do. |
| posted by Lexi on 01/25/2008 09:26 AM
|
|
|
|
|
| Maybe mace might be a safer option. If you do carry around a gun,then maybe you can go to shooting practice to make sure that no one would accidentally get hurt. |
| posted by Lisa on 01/25/2008 11:37 AM
|
|
|
|
|
| Walked the kids to the girls house turned around and started walking and what do you think I saw?The guy in the car driving to the end of the street!He sat a second; looked around ,and he fishtailed it around the corner and hauled butt.I ran the rest of the way home ,and got inside and called the cops.I said ,I am the 1 that called yesterday about the guy that wanted to grab my kids, and I just saw the car.I said if thered been a police guy here yall'd been able to friggin stop the guy.She says well we cant always be in ceratin places.I said, yea I know!So she got the info directions again ,and a police dude came out after the kids were gone for 15 min.The stupid azz bus super calls and says; that was your nabor in that car! I said wtf are you talking about?My nabor doesnt drive a fkg red car.She drives a van DUh!!!!!!!!!!!! I said what are you trying to pull here lady?I said, I saw the friggin car before the bus got there, just like yesterday!She said well I have to go.The cop called;a different one.I told him;I am not paranoid;I am not scitzo,I said what happened yesterday, really happened.I said, I dont know what that school has been telling you.My hubby got on the phone and talked to the cop for an hr.He told him that he grilled the 12 yr old and this is his story.The cop said, I have a police report that says (mom exagerating about a guy that stopped to chk his door).I was like OMG!The cop now, after getting the real story from hubby and me ,made a police report and will be sitting there monday and the next guy to work will also.I tell yall one thing; I hope yall dont have to go thru this bs.As soon as tax comes and I get my car my kids are out of that friggin district!!!!!!We pay our tax dollars to that friggin worthless school system!As far as the gun goes;depends on how many times the cops will be patrolling and watching.Lisa, I took class on shooting firearms in college a few yrs ago.And yes,I need to go and brush up.My x hubby had 9 guns and 3 handguns;we had to shoot the hunting guns in every hunting season.I havent shot any type of gun in 4 yrs.This hubby doesnt hunt at all.My boys would each go hunting w him and they each had a gun.Thats where we are in this situation now. |
| posted by Lexi on 01/25/2008 01:53 PM
|
|
|
|
|
| Walked the kids to the girls house turned around and started walking and what do you think I saw?The guy in the car driving to the end of the street!He sat a second; looked around ,and he fishtailed it around the corner and hauled butt.I ran the rest of the way home ,and got inside and called the cops.I said ,I am the 1 that called yesterday about the guy that wanted to grab my kids, and I just saw the car.I said if thered been a police guy here yall'd been able to friggin stop the guy.She says well we cant always be in ceratin places.I said, yea I know!So she got the info directions again ,and a police dude came out after the kids were gone for 15 min.The stupid azz bus super calls and says; that was your nabor in that car! I said wtf are you talking about?My nabor doesnt drive a fkg red car.She drives a van DUh!!!!!!!!!!!! I said what are you trying to pull here lady?I said, I saw the friggin car before the bus got there, just like yesterday!She said well I have to go.The cop called;a different one.I told him;I am not paranoid;I am not scitzo,I said what happened yesterday, really happened.I said, I dont know what that school has been telling you.My hubby got on the phone and talked to the cop for an hr.He told him that he grilled the 12 yr old and this is his story.The cop said, I have a police report that says (mom exagerating about a guy that stopped to chk his door).I was like OMG!The cop now, after getting the real story from hubby and me ,made a police report and will be sitting there monday and the next guy to work will also.I tell yall one thing; I hope yall dont have to go thru this bs.As soon as tax comes and I get my car my kids are out of that friggin district!!!!!!We pay our tax dollars to that friggin worthless school system!As far as the gun goes;depends on how many times the cops will be patrolling and watching.Lisa, I took class on shooting firearms in college a few yrs ago.And yes,I need to go and brush up.My x hubby had 9 guns and 3 handguns;we had to shoot the hunting guns in every hunting season.I havent shot any type of gun in 4 yrs.This hubby doesnt hunt at all.My boys would each go hunting w him and they each had a gun.Thats where we are in this situation now. |
| posted by Lexi on 01/25/2008 01:53 PM
|
|
|
|
|
| my heart was racing when I read what happened, I hope no one has to go through that again, How are your children after going through that. Please take care |
| posted by heather on 01/26/2008 10:24 AM
|
|
|
|
|
| I talked w the super of our school and she informed me that they werent going to come and get my kids.I told her I do believe that this whole friggin road was their's and they are suppose to come down it and who can I call to make sure they do?There wasnt a need.She said that the hateful super of the buses said our driveway while big enough but was too sloped.I informed her of the nice and large culdesac at the end of the road.And the reason the boy that lives there went to another school was because the bus super told his parents that if he wanted to ride her bus's that hed have to walk in the pitch dark at 640 in the am about .8 of a mile.So I went and checked my kids out of the school this am.I went to their old school and tried to get them back in and they told me no.My school of choice went null and void.Well, I came back and had a nice long fight w the super of the school.I told her I will make your life a living hell; I will call you every day and you will be in a bad mood daily if you do not change your mind with the bus or if my kids stay in your school.She informed me as nice as she knew how;shed fix it so I didnt have to stay w the kids in her district.She talked to the super and they told her no still.Well now shes really fkd.She doesnt want an irate mom calling her up daily pissing her off as well as her staff.She cant take the chance that the kids get snatched at their busstop,cause of a big lawsuit; cause she knows that I told 3 other school supers about it.Hubby and her argued for an hr after I left to chk em out.He told me when I got home they wont do it!!! lol!!!Well after we got thru talking to the super of the other school and she realized that ima biotch from hellspawned over and Ill do anything to make sure my kids stay safe; she called and told me that now since she cant get rid of my irate azz ,that the bus will be there in the am and from now on til I chk the kids out, for school of choice.She said hopefully we can get along until then.She of course didnt say those exact words to me.It was a sugar-coated version.My best friend (gawd I miss her) that died of ovarian cancer a few yrs back, told me that i have a problem with not being able to say things to sugar coat ;so as I dont hurt ppls feelings!I am proud of the super cause It would have been hard for me to maintain.I am easy going but not when it comes to my (babies).I dont care how old they are.They are irreplaceable. |
| posted by Lexi on 01/28/2008 02:52 PM
|
|
|
|
|
| My girls are only 1 and 2 but i couldnt imagine this happening to me...i would have hurt someone. You handled this VERY calm compared to what some parents would have done. I am happy to hear that the bus is now going to stop to pick your kids up, thats just insane that the school/bus people didnt seem to think that your children are important enough to add 5 minutes onto the bus route...insane. |
| posted by Amber on 01/28/2008 03:34 PM
|
|
|
