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| Hey Sharice, man I am soo with you. I have two little boys, and a husband. What I learned to do is, simply say " I need a break". And make plans for yourself, whether it is getting your hair done, or going shopping by yourself. MAKE TIME for yourself. That is what I learned. It is too hard to get the time you need when everyone is home, so you might have to leave to make time for yourself. I sure do. I have a calendar, that I scheduled time to get my hair done, or go workout, or go meet a friend. I am even going to a concert with a friend and no children or husband. Trust me, it is necessary. It keeps you sane. Good luck to you. |
| posted by Roxanne on 06/21/2007 11:54 PM
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Sharice
Hope it helps to know that u are not alone. I am a sahm of one son and a husband too LOL and I feel like I never get a real break . Im constantly with my son so 2 year old conversation all day get BORING...so in a way u are lucky to be outside the home to interact with others at work.
I agree with Roxy judt try to schedule time to yourself it will benifit everyone in the end
Laura |
| posted by laura on 06/22/2007 08:07 AM
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| I totally understand, I don't work I am a stay at home mommy. I don't think my husband understands that I work very hard at home. I mean having to do all the house work, taking care of a 2 year old, laundry, and a crafting bussiness is tiring. Anways what I did is have desinated time. My Husband get an hour right after our son goes to bed between 8-9 and I get 9-10. And then we alternate sleeping in on saturdys. I also have girl's night with my friends once a month. Besides my hubby and I have date night every other week. I think you have to have you time and time with your hubby to be a good mommy. I mean your kids have their own time, you need yours. Just talk to your hubby about your feels and hopefuly you can find a comprimise. Good luck! Karolyn |
| posted by Karolyn on 06/22/2007 08:24 AM
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THANKS LADIES FOR ALL UR ADVICE!!
I have tried to talk to my husband about having time to myself. I have even went as far as to having arguments about it. The first thing he does is either tell me to leave and go ur with my friends, which by the way I do not have time to make, or he will ignore me and tell me that everything is going to be alright. I am at the point of tears just thinking about it. I used to be a stay at home Mom, but I was feeling as though I needed to get back in the work force. So I did. When my hubbie had a resturant, I was there with him all of the time. Even had the kids up there. When it was closing time, he would go to his friends house, or take a shower and go straight to bed. Last night for example, I cooked dinner, while he was at his friend's house, fed the kids and called him home for dinner. He came home, and I went upstairs. Less that 20 minutes later, him and the two small ones were up there jumping up and down in the bed. Then he gets pissed because I HAVE AN ATTITUDE. I am at my whits end with this situation. I love my husband and my children. I know that he works hard, laws care tech, and I want him to understand that I work just as hard as him. He does have a lot going physically, he is co-owner of a laws care business and sole owner of a ladies apparel business. But I am just as strained. Full time employee, I do all the laundry, cooking, cleanind, potty training, picking up children and dropping off children, going all the hair in the family, the two girls and my oldest son have long hair, not to mention my husband. I do all the dr.'s visits, make sure all bills are paid on time, etc........I am sure that you get the point. I am trying to be a stron mother. But sometimes, I feel like I am going to burst. There have been times when I have locked myself in the bathroom because I could not stop the tears from flowing. I salute all mothers who are able to stay at home 100% and cope. But I am not one of them anymore. I know that I have times of depression because of this. I work for one of the largest HMO companies in the mental health department, so I know how to recognize the signs. I try to shake it off, but it only lasts for a season. I need some time away!! |
| posted by sharice on 06/22/2007 11:17 AM
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| Oh Sharice, I wish I was there to give you a hug. MEN suck!!!! Sorry, I had to say that. I am pissed at my hubby too. I turned 30 a couple of days ago, and he did NOTHING!!! Anyway, I know what you meen, men don't understand. How old are your children? Find someone to watch them, or simply MAKE your husband watch them. Just plan to do something for yourself, and do it. Don't feel guilty either. I wish I could be there, so we can go hang out. There is a power within you that you are not aware of. Don't give up. |
| posted by Roxanne on 06/22/2007 11:51 AM
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| Sharice, I am so sorry. I had to have surgery and was in the hospital for two days, so my hubby had to take care of our son and after the second day my mom came he told her I don't know how she does it. He never told me but I think he got a better understanding of what I do and go through. he may forget it but at least he has been in his shoes. I thoughtly think you should go somewhere for the whole day and make your hubby watch the kids the whole day. Just do it and maybe he will apreciate a little more. You can't make him see what you do at work but you can make him understand what you do at home. Hang in their . Mom would always tell me "this to will pass". It use to piss me off, but she is right. Good Luck. |
| posted by Karolyn on 06/22/2007 12:07 PM
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If you ladies only knew how touching this out-pouring of mommie-love is to me, you would drop a tear just as I am. I have never been made to feel so understood. I just hate that it took so long to find. I know that feeling guilty about leaving my children has a lot to do with it. A couple of winters ago, my hubby stayed home with the children. The first thing he did when I got through the door was go to his friend's. Then he would want to come home, eat, take a shower, try to be intimate and go to bed. So he has stayed at home with them. But he says that it is nothing and that it was a piece of cake. I explained to him that staying at home with the kids for a few months is nothing compared to years. Then on top of that, you get your break as soon as I walk through the door.
Am I complaining too much? Am I asking for too much? Should I just suck it up to being a great mother and wife? Should I just count my loses and get time when I can? |
| posted by sharice on 06/22/2007 12:33 PM
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Oh Sharice !
Salute yourself if your husband with not ! You are a very strong woman you are taking more then some woman might but it could always be worse that is what a friend of mine swears by. ....which is true for most situations.
try not to show saddness in front of the kids it could do damage u dont know of.
Be strong .....we are here for venting and tears 24-7
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| posted by laura on 06/22/2007 12:58 PM
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| THANKS LADIES!!!! :) |
| posted by sharice on 06/22/2007 12:59 PM
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| Hey Sharice, have you tried, like not doing things for your husband, like his laundary, or maybe cooking for him. Feed the kids before he gets home. That way he can fend for himself. He will get the point, eventually. How long have you been married? I have been married for eight years, and I have tried/trying everything. |
| posted by Roxanne on 06/22/2007 01:34 PM
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| Have you tried asking a friend or your mom, some family to come over 1-2 times a week to help you give you a break while you get 1 or 2 hrs by your self to do what ever around there or out side the house? |
| posted by Amber on 06/22/2007 04:29 PM
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| Yes I think you should take a stand be strong and tell him his audry won't get done unless he does it instead of going to his friends he needs to do his own laundry, and eat before he gets home feed the kids before he gets home let him fin for his self.It sounds like he is avoiding being a family all together by leaving to go to his friends as soon as he gets home or after you eat and that's not good. You should tell him how would he like it if you did the same thing to him, may be you should, may be you should tell your kids to go over to your hubbys friend's house if they live next door and tell your kids to tell him you are going some where and can't take them the kids, then leave for a while as soon as they go over there. Then he might get the point. |
| posted by Amber on 06/22/2007 04:41 PM
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| Not doing his laundry really does not cut it for me. I guess it is because I can not just sit around and not do it. I can not stand the site, nor the smell of his dirty laundry. During the day, he is doing lawn care with his brother. So needless to say, that can be a really smelly situation!! :P I think that what I am going to do is have yet another converstion about this situation. He has been getting home before he here lately and is getting at least 3 hrs of personal space. When I get in this evening, I will tell him AGAIN that there needs to be some designated time that is just for me. Whether I leave the house or not, it needs to be respected. I will let you guys know what type of wore or attitude battle evolved. Hopefully it wont boil down to that. I am tired of arguing about this with him. He should just understand, that just a himself, I get tired too. Just because I sit behind a desk about 8 hrs a day soes not mean that I am not tired. I deal with people all day that have mental/substance abuse issued all day. That within itself is tiring. So you guys continue to cheer me on. I will report back later!!!! OVER AND OUT!!! |
| posted by sharice on 06/22/2007 05:12 PM
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| You are a brave woman to take on all that you do! Cheers to you! I know how you feel. It is feeling that you need time in the house with no responsibiliy. Not shoved out the door to spend time with friends or by yourself. Sometimes it is just nice to be home, but to have 'daddy' take care of everything, from dinner, to baths, to laundry. Not being lazy, but time to be around your family but also be recharged. It's nice when kids ask daddy for something and not always MOM! I haven't quite got it through my kids head YET! I'm glad to know that we are not alone and that not everyone has the perfect husband! If all else fails you could take him to counceling and get someone to help you get your thoughts across to him. It might help! Take care and keep your head up, I know I will!! |
| posted by sandra on 06/22/2007 06:13 PM
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| Sharice, you seem like the greatest person in the world. You put up with too much. You do what you have to do, for yourself and your kids. I am sure your husband isn't a bad guy, but he just doesn't get it. I hope for the best for you, and I wish you well. Good Luck. |
| posted by Roxanne on 06/22/2007 07:03 PM
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| Okay laies, it is now 707pm my time, which is central standard, I just got done talking with my husband. He laid there with this blank stare on his face. I explained to him that there are some points in time when I just need to be kid free. I explained to him that we are both tired and that it is not fair that he gets all the free time to himself. Prior to me even talking to him, he comes in the house, from next door of course, telling me how much he loves me and how grateful e is to ave me and what a great mother and wife I am. I think that his inner-being knew a conversation was in the making. Although all of this was flattering and it was much needed to be heard, it still was not going to stop me from speaking. I told him that there needs to be a schedule for my own time. I also explained that all I want right now it at least 2 days out of the week for a total of about 3 hrs. He still sat there with a blank stare. At the time, my youngest was in te room with us. He got up from the bed and told her to leave out of the room with him. He had an attitude, although he did not want to show it. Sometime you can just tell when a man has an attitude. He gets a sarcastic demeanor. As he is leaving out of the room, I ask him if he has anything to say. He says that there is nothing to say because I have said what I have had to say. I just want to hear at least that he understands, an apology for not noticing my stress levels. Instead he fusses at the baby an tells her that they have to leave out of the room. I am sitting here about to cry because he acts like he does not want to understand or agree that I am overloaded. No sooner than I pull out the laptop, kids come rushing in. He comes after them, but once they tell him that they want their mom, he turns and walks away. So I guess my personal time fate has been sealed.........IT IS NOT GONNA HAPPEN NOR WILL IT EVER. |
| posted by sharice on 06/22/2007 08:16 PM
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| I understand how you feel. I am a stay at home mom and my daughter is the most important thing in the world, but we all need a break. My husband use to not understand but he is starting to come around, after a few heated discusions about it.Even my mom is finally watching her more. |
| posted by Natasha on 06/22/2007 09:12 PM
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| I am so sorry that happen. I realy hope things get better for you guys. I think the counsling thing is a good idea maybe a counsler can make him realize that you are not comeing down on making it seem that he is all bad and doesn't care about you, but that you just need some me time.In my reply before I didn't mean to sound like I was thinking bad about your hubby,because I am sure he's a good guy and that wasn't my intentions,but I can't imagine what it is like to be in the need of me time like you are. He doesn't want you to have a nervous break down I mean . |
| posted by Amber on 06/22/2007 09:33 PM
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Hi Sharice,
First off my hat to you for all that you do at home and going out to a paid job also! My suggestion, if finances permit, is to arrange a sitter and give husband the option of going out with you or you going by yourself whichever works. Now i know this will not solve the main communication problem that appears to be going on between you, but it will give you time to step back and evaluate things as well as de-stress. If you do not take care of you and he is not willing to listen at this point, then who will? To be able to continue to give all that you do to your family with a loving attitude, you have to TAKE that time for yourself to re-energize or whatever you call it.
For some men, they just don't understand a woman's need to be away from her children for a while. Doesn't mean you don't love them tremendously!!Maybe he feels you are trying to pull away from them and this is where counseling could help. Even a pastor-lead counselor -just an objective 3rd person weighing in on the matter.
Just don't lose hope..sounds like you do have a great family Sharice, you are just worn down:( |
| posted by Andrea R. on 06/22/2007 10:23 PM
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| I ave already offered a 3rd party interjection. I have the type of insurance where you are allotted so many free sessions year per person that is on the plan. But even with that, he still does not want to participate. He does not think that he is necessary to have someone giving advise. I have even went to his Dad who is a Pastor, and he prays for me and te family as well as try to talk to his son. But that does no good. I am trully at whits ends. I have had a nervous breakdown before, several. Some are taken out on him in the form of arguments. Others are taken out on myself....etc depression. I have had 'fits' because I am so overwhelmed. Maybe I am looking at this whole situation the wrong way. Maybe I should not be worried about free time. Just as long as the children are taken care of and he is happy that should replace all of that. I know that they may sound crazy, but I dont know what else to think or say at this point. |
| posted by sharice on 06/22/2007 11:36 PM
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| Have you tried writing your thoughts and concerns down on paper and then handing it to him to read? Sometimes it comes at him better that way. Just a thought. Hang in there and don't worry. You do need your time. Even if the kids are taken care of and your husband is taken care of, you NEED to be taken care of too. I have faith that all will be ok. Take care and talk to us if you need!!! |
| posted by sandra on 06/23/2007 12:05 AM
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| Hi Sharice. OK take a deep breath. Can you go visit a family member for awhile, just to get a break from it all? Maybe a little time away from your husband would be beneficial. That way he may reconsider the situation. You need to take care of your mental state, for yourself and your children. They can sense tention and feelings between you and your husband. Think about it more. Don't give up, just yet. You can always call Dr. Phil!LOL He is awesome. |
| posted by Roxanne on 06/23/2007 01:01 AM
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| So I am so with you, I have been crying today because I am just so TIRED!! I have two children and I am going crazy. I am mess. I believe that I need time for me and I ask for it from my husband which is nice of me to ask right?? He says to me this morning I am going down to my parents house after work to help my dad! OK WELL WHAT ABOUT ME??? I have been home all day with the kids and would like a break. I said to him I ask you to do something and you put up a huge fit, but someone else asks you do to something you are all for it! Does anyone else have this problem??? |
| posted by Jeanette on 06/23/2007 03:17 PM
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Jeannette,
Sometimes I think men just don't understand that we need time away from our kids and all the responsibility that goes along with that. My husband usually pitches in when I ask but i usually have to ASK. That irks me. I know many times he can see how exhausted i am and that this tantrum from my 2yo is making me at my wits end, but he still sits there. For me a lot changed in his attitude when we decided for me to stay at home. We have a good relationship that is centered around our faith, but communication is still an issue. I have worked all my life , was home for 3months with my first son, went back to work, and now have been home for the last year and a half.
To be honest,, sometimes i think I AM MORE THE PROBLEM because i am having such a hard time adjusting to being home all day. Don't get me wrong I love it most days and i am waiting and watching to see my second son crawl for the first time, which i missed with my first because i was working, But once you've been in the workforce so long, it's difficult to switch that mindset off and get on "baby " time and not your time. My hubby keeps the kids quite often while i shop or just get out of the house for a few hours and he says "it was fine". Sometimes though i wish he could have them fulltime for about 2-3 days. LOL. When i am not around to go behind him and close the wipe box before they all dry out, put the dirty diapers in the trash instead of leaving them on the floor/table, clean the highchairs from food, make sure everyone has clean clothes to wear, get up with the 9month old at 3:30am to feed. You know, the NOT SO FUN STUFF that most daddies just don't do. But I love my DH and when I am frustrated, I try to remember what he is dealing with out in the workforce: a grumbling boss, workers who won't work, traffic that doesn't move, and long, hot hours in the sun.
It's all a balancing act, for me and for him. As long as you both give in at times, I think it all evens out in the end. :)
Sharice and Jeannette, keep plugging and just keep talking to them.! |
| posted by Andrea R. on 06/23/2007 04:25 PM
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| Jeanette, I am there with you too 100000%. My husband tell me this morning that I am over reacting and that I am saying that he is not a good husband or a father because i told him that he always gets the free time. He is trying to turn this all on me to make me feel guilty for wanting to have some peace and qute in my own freaking home. Men just do not understand that women need breaks too. This is not the June Cleaver era anymore. Woman are demanding personal space away from the kids. Who says that we have to be the maid, laundry woman and chef all of the freaking time. I know now that I will be taking the advice of the other mother's.........I will TAKE ME SOME TIME. and it will be away from the house. Seeing as though when I try to get it here, I am always interurpted. |
| posted by sharice on 06/23/2007 05:08 PM
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| I do love my husband and he is great father to my daughter who is not his child and is great with our son that we have together. I do take some me time but I feel that he just takes off when he wants and I have to ASK for me time. When he gets home I normally run out and check the mail or something, he is great but again I have to ASK, I always joke to him because he says well I did not know it needed to be done. ( laundry, dishes and things like that ) So I say well I guess you did not get the e-mail I got saying things needed to be done. And we all know that we don't get told what needs to be done! LOL. I just think men don't get it, and it sucks because I DO NOT WANT TO BE THE BITCHY WIFE. I love him and want things to be better, how can I do that??? PLEASE HELP! |
| posted by Jeanette on 06/23/2007 05:42 PM
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| Jeanette, we are mirroring each other to a 't'. This is why I started this post. To get advice, and help with this situation. Like I have said I have tried it all. But afterseveral posts here and searching around on the site, I think that one thing that is going to help is the advice of a previous poster.....TAKE THE ME TIME. I am dedicated now to getting that for myself. Even if it is to take a trip to the grocery store without children. Jeanette, we are facing the same dilemma and these ladies here have given me much encouragement and support. Stick around!!! |
| posted by sharice on 06/23/2007 10:10 PM
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Glad u are feeling the love ladies.
I have found this site such a confort and help. I feel like we are all close friends and we can count on each other advise 24-7.
Sharice just think of the time talking to us on this site as the begining of the ME TIME .....so dont stop here !
Laura |
| posted by laura on 06/23/2007 10:15 PM
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| DIDO Ladies!!!!!! |
| posted by Roxanne on 06/23/2007 10:34 PM
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| DIDO & STAND STRONG TOGETHER WE GOT THE WOMAN POWER!!!!!!!!!!! CHIN UP EVERYONE!!!!! |
| posted by Amber on 06/23/2007 11:16 PM
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| Yes you need me time!!!! I go and get my nails and toes done, and just take a walk or go to the store alone!! It is nice to get out once and while. I just wish they understood. I have been having a really hard time with depression and trying to get on track with that and raise two children and a husband! LOL Just kidding!! Sometimes I even just walk out the door and I hate when it comes to that but you need it. So make yourself an appointment and get your hair done or nails!!! |
| posted by Jeanette on 06/24/2007 09:49 AM
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| Or even make a coffee or ice cream date with one of your girl friends. I mean we are not taling about you doing this 7 days a week we all wish it could be but at least 2 days out of the week would be nice huh. I still think things will get better for you. So chin up , I don't know how you do it, you should get a Mommy award. |
| posted by Amber on 06/24/2007 10:51 AM
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Good Morning Ladies..............
Hopefully everyone enjoyed their weekend and was able to salvage at least 3 hours of personal space during the weekend. I have an idea that I think will work out great......I know that we are having a hard time getting PERSONAL SPACE. How about we find a time that is good for everyone here and meet up at least once a week and do a chat or a 'post' party. Meaning we can come here, vent a little, share stresses and resoultions to everyday situations. At least that is some time away for at least 30 minutes or so. |
| posted by sharice on 06/25/2007 10:04 AM
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| Sharice, I think that is a great idea. I would like to do a chat instead of posting messages. I know this weekend my husband was a little bit of a jerk. He went to help a friend who is building a house and well I had to go to a womens meeting at my church so I told him to leave between 4:30 & 5 so I coyuld get ready. He called @ 4 and said we are finished so we are going to jump in the pool. I got upset because I dont think it is fair for him to get to get to do that and not even ask how it was going at home or if I even needed him . Needless to say he came home.I dont even go somewhere every week. He works night shift so he is up for about 4 hours before he goes to work, he works long shifts, and he gets me time at least 3 days a week working out. Although he is getting better letting me go to the store by myself, but I feel like my time alone is doing chores and not relaxing. |
| posted by Natasha on 06/25/2007 10:26 AM
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Morning Natasha.........
Suga Pie I know what you mean. My husband would go out with his friends and not tell me he was leaving the house, he would say he would be one place and then leave that place to go somewhere else without saying anything, he would stay gone longer than expected knowing I had things to do like get som rest!! But he has gotten better after countless arguments and no-holds bar conversations. When I clean house, and the two oldest children are around, I make themchip in. Lawd knows, I did not get the house dirty alone. I give them the small things to do like CLeaning the tables or sweeping down the steps. The two smallest ones wnjoying helping me push the vaccum or picking up their array for toys they have covering their floor. I usually make 'whole' housze cleaning a family affair. Hubby and Brother-n-Law are responsible for outdoots. Including the flower beds and weed/feeding....after all they have a lawncare business!!! I will work on trying to get a chat started. I think they have a chat room here. I am not sure, I am still fresh-meat!!! |
| posted by sharice on 06/25/2007 10:48 AM
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| Sounds great Ladies, I have some stuff to vent about. Just let me know when? |
| posted by Roxanne on 06/25/2007 11:43 AM
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| Im in too ~ not sure though if there is a chat room here :) |
| posted by laura on 06/25/2007 04:03 PM
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| There is not a chat feature, but I contact the Co-Owner and she will email me back hopefully sometime soon!! |
| posted by sharice on 06/25/2007 04:07 PM
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Good news ladies, Vero contacted me back today and she thought that the chat room would be a great idea. She is going to speak to some of the others and let me know.
Besides that, did anyone get some personal space today? Today is Monday, the biggest day to get free space. Some of us went back to work after the weekends, and others are continuing on with their daily stay at home routine. Whatever category you are in hopefully you got some space it is needed. I have not gotten any today and doubt if I will. But I am going to have some on Wednesday. I took off of work to take care of some business in the AM. So I decided to just take the whole day off so I can have it to myself. The children will be at school/daycare. The hubbie will be at work, and I will be to myself. |
| posted by sharice on 06/25/2007 09:38 PM
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| Totally Awesome Sharice! YOU GO GIRL!!!!!! |
| posted by Roxanne on 06/25/2007 09:58 PM
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you go sharice enjoy the day of peace.
Laura |
| posted by laura on 06/26/2007 09:03 PM
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Good Evening Ladies.............
How are you ladies doing on this beautiful Tuesday? Hopefully all is well and hopefully some, if not all, of you guys got spme personal space today. I am trying to enjoy some of my own. I have been alone for only 10 minutes, and knowing the way things usually go, I dont think it will last for long. But tomorrow is the big day!!! PERSONAL SPACE DAY!! I will have to whole day to myself. AndI am going for a job interview for a better job that is closer to home. So wish me luck on that.
Ladies, have a great night and a better tomorrow. And just in case I have not said it already, thanks ladies for all the support ans encouragement. |
| posted by sharice on 06/26/2007 09:42 PM
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Hey Sharice hope u didnt run away today LOL
How was the day off
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| posted by laura on 06/27/2007 03:32 PM
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Hey Ladies............
The day was alright. Just was not long enough!! I got a lot of things done that I have been putting off for a while. Went and got the girls early from daycare because I started feeling guilty because I was at home and they were there. Another free day is in the near future. |
| posted by sharice on 06/27/2007 08:40 PM
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Sharice u are a good mom !
after all the gripe about needing time off from the family u still went to get the kids early from daycare. PROPS to u ! Now that is a good mommy.
Laura |
| posted by laura on 06/27/2007 09:09 PM
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| Sharice, you are wonder women. I really don't know how you do it. Bless you, hon. |
| posted by Roxanne on 06/28/2007 12:27 AM
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Hello Ladies............
Is everyone geared for the weekend? I know that I am. I am taking the kids to the drive in tonight and then they go to my Dad's for the weekend. So I am going to enjoy myself because I need some sleep so bad, I have not been driving. But knowing me, I will find household chores to do!! If you gals get a moment to yourself, enjoy every second of it!! :) |
| posted by sharice on 06/29/2007 03:16 PM
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| AMEN, Sharice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| posted by Roxanne on 06/29/2007 04:19 PM
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| Just checking to see what the latest was on the chat. |
| posted by Natasha on 07/02/2007 11:42 PM
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Hey Ladies.........
How has it been going? Hopefully all is well and th personal space time is getting better. I feel so much better now that I have taken a stand. I fell a little less stressed and more calm. Hopefully, this will go for the long haul and not cease. Hopefully the same is happening with you all. As far as the chat sessions are concerned, I have not heard anythingyet. I will check back with them now. |
| posted by sharice on 07/03/2007 08:58 AM
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great Sharice
Laura |
| posted by laura on 07/03/2007 12:59 PM
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Hey Ladies....
How are you guys doing? I am so sorry that I have not been here lately. But I am happy to report that my personal space meter is off the charts here lately!!! And I owe it all to you guys for the support nd encouragement. Vero emailed me yesterday and told me that she has not forgotten about the chat room request. They will be testing out some things on next week. I will keep you posted. |
| posted by sharice on 07/07/2007 12:58 AM
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| WAHOO SHARICE! You go girl! |
| posted by Roxanne on 07/07/2007 01:12 AM
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hello ladies!!!
i have great news and i have awesome news
first the great news is that all is well with me and the children and the personal space has taken a backwards turn is is disappearing once again but i am determined to get it back
now for the awesome news
WE NOW HAVE A CHAT ROOM!!!
all thanks shall go to Mrs. Vero for the support and the effort!!!
so when shall me all meet??? |
| posted by sharice on 07/14/2007 11:17 PM
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